John Nichols stated it well in a recent column:

"Blind defenders of the war, who claim to be committed to spreading democracy in Iraq, continue to argue that democracy in America does not matter. For all their enthusiasm about elections abroad, they dismiss the will of the American people as expressed through ballot boxes here in the United States." -http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/nichols/index.php?ntid=79748&ntpid=2

Also speaking of Democracy, let us see what Iraqi citizens had to say about the US/UK occupation in Oct '05:

- 65% of Iraqis in the British-controlled Maysan province, in south-eastern Iraq, believe attacks against UK and US troops are justified

- 82% of Iraqis were "strongly opposed" to the presence of foreign troops

- less than 1% believed the troops were responsible for improvement in security

- 43% percent believed conditions for peace and security had worsened

(statistice from http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1599185,00.html)

Citizens in Oshkosh will be meeting Saturday to discuss the possibility of joinin Milwaukee and several other cities in Wisconsin that will have a question about the war on the November ballot. As shown several months back, there will be very minimal support from the Oshkosh common council, so this will have to be completely a citizen movement. The ABV will post more and will again be sending out regular emails to everyone interested in what is happening with the signature drive.